Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:30:01 -0500 (CDT)  ... UNI Homecoming Eve ...
   From: Mark Jacobson <jacobson@cns.uni.edu>
     To: Frodo.Baggins@MiddleEarth.com
Subject: Re: lamp

Hello Frodo,

You might have missed the class where I showed it:

    Edit Mesh > Keep Faces Together

                 make sure Keep Faces Together is checked, i.e. is ON...

    Select all of the faces of the top of the wine glass.

    Make sure you have set Selection mode to Faces using the Marking Menu.
                                             -----

    In a side or a front view, or a PERSP view where the glass is
          angled so its top is visible from the side of the glass,

       select all of the TOP of the glass faces by drawing a bounding
         box rectangle around them.  You do NOT even need to see them.

       Just drag a bounding box around the very top of the glass as you
         look at it from a good side or front or persp view.
                                ----    -----    -----

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 The following VIP Note and WARNING is an excellent review of the HELMET
 tutorial customized preferences for SELECTION.  Please read it over
 carefully, and one part of the Helmet modeling tutorial will be clearer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VIP Note:  You must have Polygon Selection preferences on the default
    --------
                              -            -
         Select faces with:  |*| Center   |_|  Whole Face
                              -

                 selecting faces with CENTER means you will see
                    the little square selection handles in the middle
                    of every face when you are in FACE component
                    selection mode.
   -------
   Warning:  In the Helmet tutorial this morning we changed
   -------                 the preferences to be:

                               -            -
          Select faces with:  | | Center   |*|  Whole Face
                               -            -

                              WHOLE FACE, which is NOT the default.

          Whole face is NOT going to work, so go to:

             Window > Settings/Preferences > Preferences

                 and do the     Edit > Restore Default Settings
                                               command to get back
                                               to CENTER setting.
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End of VIP Note and WARNING (and back to Wine Glass modeling face extrude).
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       Now that all the TOP of glass faces are selected,
            and you have done Edit Mesh > Keep Faces Together
            so they are kept together when TRANSFORMED or EXTRUDED,

       you can do the
                      Edit Mesh > Extrude.

           The move tool for the EXTRUDE operation will be shown.

           Drag the relevant extrusion handle downward to
                move the faces downward and to make the glass hollow,
                so it can hold some wine.

           Do the Scale tool to make the faces larger or smaller to
                fit the inner part of the glass to the outer shape
                of the glass as you wish.

           Do another Edit Mesh > Extrude

                  and extrude farther downward into the glass, and then
                  with the SCALE or ReSize tool chosen, after you have
                  extruded all those faces downward, make the radius
                  larger or smaller as needed to match the shape of your
                  wine glass so the inner surface somewhat matches the
                  outer surface.

          If this does not work after lots of tries, just skip having the
          glass have a hollow area to actually hold the wine.  Or you
          could just delete those TOP FACES so it is hollow wine glass,
          but without any different inner surfaces - i.e. having the same
          inner surface as its outer surface.

          Mark

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, FrodoBaggins@MiddleEarth.com wrote:

> Hello again Mark,
>
> Another problem that has arisen as a challenge. I need some more 
> direction. I have the wineglass made, but when it comes to extruding the
> top, I can't seem to figure it out. I have the wine glass selected, I am
> in component mode, and I do the right click face command, but then are you
> supposed to highlight something, or what do you select to extrude the face
> to the bottom of the wine glass. Because I have in my notes you are
> supposed to edit polygon, extrude face, is this command in just the edit
> window in the top toolbar?
>
> Thanks
> Frodo